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11-87 Police out of the box reliability?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:06 am
Hi all around,

I am new here and I just purchased a new 11-87P (my first Remington) and found that it doesn't work reliably and fails to properly cycle shells - jams on about every 5th round. So with my limited knowledge about autoloaders I did the following:

1. I disassembled the gun and cleaned all parts from the gummy factory lube grease type preservative they treat the guns with prior to shipping in order to prevent rust and corrosion from being stored a long time. Then I applied a generous amount of rem-oil teflon based lubricant on all moving parts until really wet and reassembled the weapon.

2. I picked out about 50 shells of various types and brands (from 2 1/2" to 2 3/4", buck shot and slugs) but all with a minimum 1 1/4 oz powder charge as I know some autoloaders don't like the lighter loads.

Again, though cycling better than before there were still more than half a dozen mis-feeds out of the 50. Now I don't know what to do next. Is this a common issue with new 11-87s? Do they need a more extensive break-in? What can I do to get it to cycle reliably??

Any help is appreciated. :D
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:26 pm
Welcome to the Remington Owners Forum BP...

The action / gas regulation may be off...and thus the cycling.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:59 pm
That is not normal. What exactly is it doing?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:11 am
Virginian wrote:That is not normal. What exactly is it doing?

1.Several times after ejecting the empty shell, the action stayed locked open with the next shell resting on the carrier but not completely out of the magazine tube. Pulling the shell manually completely out of the tube and onto the carrier and then wiggling it into the chamber before closing the action by releasing the bolt fixed these feeding problems.
2. Once a 2 1/2" shell was not ejected because the bolt didn't make it back far enough for the shell to hit the ejector and the action stayed half way open with the empty shell stuck on the extractor.
3. Twice a 2 1/2" shell jammed the action because it got stuck nose down half way in the cycling process.
4. Several times the bolt cycled but closed again re-chambering the spent shell or ejecting the spent shell and closing on an empty chamber, always failing to feed the next round. This problem was easily fixed by just manually cycling the action - annoying because you only become aware something is wrong after pulling the trigger and it goes "click".

I rechecked my ammo and the loads are all 1 1/8 oz or better, with the 2 1/2" shells being the lightest at slightly more than 1 1/8 ounce (32 grams).

Thanks for help.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:59 am
Sounds like you are not getting enough gas to operate the action reliably. What is the velocity or dram equivalent of those 2-1/2" loads? The standard 11-87 was designed to function down to standard 2-3/4" 1-1/8 ounce lead field loads, which are about 1200 to 1225 feet per second. I have never shot 2-1/2" shells so I don't know if that could be contributing to the issue.
Assuming the 11-87P has a standard gas relief system like other 11-87s. You might try putting an oversized O ring between the gas piston and the original O ring to block the flow of gasses to the relief valve system, like the barrel gas seal activator does on the SuperMag version. Just don't forget to take it out before shooting heavy loads. If you do not have the gas relief system, it may be set up for slugs and other heavy loads only. Looking at the extra barrels chart, it does not show the Police barrels need a gas cylinder spring # 93498, so I am thinking you do not have the gas relief system and are going to be stuck using heavy loads. You might want to call Remington, too.
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