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Which to buy; Remington 870 or Mossberg 500/590?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:10 pm
I wanted to start a discussion thread for those debating purchasing a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500 or Mossberg 590... :twisted:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:06 am
Either. Really, both guns are good guns. You wouldn't go wrong with either brand of pump gun. It is all personal preference. Mine just happens to be an 870.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:16 am
I feel the same way. I am biased towards the Mossberg 590A1 and really enjoy the tang style safety of Mossberg's but I will be building a Remington 870 for home defense shortly.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:29 am
I have always felt the tang style safety has been a limiting feature on the Mossberg guns. Making using PG style stocks impractical to use. Worse if you are using a system like the Mesa stock adapter and top rail you need to replace the safety all together with something bigger like one sold by Cav Arms just so you can get to the safety. The tang safety just limits your options on the top of the receiver. It is why all of my Mossberg's wear comb stocks because using a PG stock like the Speedfeed III or IV-S is not practical. It is one of those little bugs that makes me prefer the 870.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:38 am
That is exactly why I will be building a Remington 870 as second home defense shotgun. I want to run pistol grip on a shotgun and like you stated it is awkward at best on a Mossberg with the tang safety.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:04 pm
Being a lefty shooter I enjoy the safety on the mossberg over the Remington one. However my Remington 870 was my first so i have a bit of a sweet spot for it and gotten used to the safety of the Remington.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:36 pm
The safety situation on the Remington 870, 1100, 1187, and 7600 Carbine is a relatively easy fix and it is something that I know multiple companies have in prototype already. An ambi type flip safety has been a long requested item by shooters. In the early 80's a book was published called "The Remington 1100 exotic weapon system", it is out of print now but you can pick up a used copy online. http://www.amazon.com/Remington-1100-ex ... 0873642627

On page 31 JM Ramos goes into a pretty detailed design plan on how to make flip style safety. He was using this to make a safe, semi and full auto selector switch to turn the 1100 into a full auto weapon..not sure why, but anyways. In the back of the book there are a few drawings of this design. So the idea is nothing new. All that would be needed is this safety switch to be drilled and tapped so that it would install like the standard Remington safety and you would then attach another switch (so you would have male-female switch halves), to the other side and screw it down with an allen screw making it ambi. Problem solved for both righties and lefties.
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Now I have personally tested a working prototype like this already so I know the idea is sound. The prototype worked very well and after you got past the years of metal training of pushing your safety in, the simple task of "flipping" the safety off was super fast. Add in the addition of it being ambi and it has some serious potential. As I said two other companies that I know of (at least) are working on this product, I will leave it to them to bring something like this to market. Though it is a very simple fix. I think the biggest hurdle comes in the form of liability.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:26 am
I went through this very process this past fall and ended up with an 870 Wingmaster. The Wingmaster because it is a better grade of the 870 series. Plus I got a sweet deal on a used one in super condition for less than a NIB Express, so that just made it all the better!

As to the OP, both guns are head on competitors and their functionality is pretty near identical. The fit and finish of the 870 seemed better then the 500. Also, the 870 cycled more smoothly & when carrying the 500 its foregrip tended to rattle. A definite minus for hunting purposes, where quite is usually better.

Most importantly though, the handling of the 870 was just better suited for me. The pull was felt right & it swung more smoothly for me. That was the deal cincher. If my body were differently built, I could have easily went with the 500, as the comfort of handling the gun is most important IMHO if you are going to get real good with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:26 pm
That is the same reason I bought a 870. The finish on them are ten times better than that of a 500 and they just seem much smoother than them also.

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