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A good AR for hunting deer in NC?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:59 pm
I have a remington model 700 in the .243 that is bolt action which is good for when I'm hunting in the stand but these AR-15's and such has made me really want to get one of them. I have been looking at the Remington r-25 so I could use a bigger caliber than the .223 rounds. Now I don't know very much about these but I really want one. I want one that feels good when shooting as in light recoil and a good feel to it. I also want it to have some knockdown power and put a good sized hole into a deer. I will probably be using it the most when we are gonna run the deer with dogs so the maximum range would be 300 yards at most but mainly just 100-150 yard shots. I am considering .308 since I've heard the rounds can be found easily and it's a good deer round but I don't have much knowledge on them but I've been trying to do some research but would love any opinions of hunters that have actually used them and the results and any recommendations. (I'd also love to be able to put a lot of attachments I.e. pistol grip, tripod, red dot sight or regular rifle scope and a magazine with at least 10 rounds but 30 would be awesome too :D lol) Thanks and God Bless
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:57 am
I shot an AR in 50 Beowulf a while back and loved it. Kind of expensive to shoot unless you reload them.

If you are looking at a .308 then you are looking at an AR-10. The 308 is too large to feed through a std AR-15 receiver. I do not know much about them except that there is no real standard so parts are not as easily interchangable between brands.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:38 pm
Ok I'll have to check them out but I don't reload but I wasn't sure what caliber to get and I had just heard people say the .308 is the best but I just want it to have some power and accuracy and for it to be able to have attachments put on it. Kick isn't a big problem I care about but I done want it to pop up alot and I want to be able to hit a running deer at 200yds or so and depend that the gun will do it. I like my .243 but it doesn't have much knockdown power to it. It does have some speed tho, it will make that bullet fly but I was thinking about getting a bigger caliber but thanks for the reply
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:18 pm
FYI - I found this on another forum:

AR-15, without bolt modification
.17 Remington
.17/223
.20 Tactical
.20 Practical
.20 Vartag
.204 Ruger
.221 Fireball
.222 Remington
.222 Remington Magnum
.223 Remington (5.56x45mm)
.223 Remington Ackley Improved
6x45mm
6mm TCU
6x47mm
6mm Whisper
.25x45mm
6.5mm Whisper
7mm Whisper
7mm TCU
.300 Whisper (.300/221, .300 Fireball)
.338 Whisper

AR-15, with bolt modification
223 WSSM
5.45x39mm (.21 Genghis)
243 WSSM
6mm PPC
6mm WOA
6mm BR Remington
6mm Hagar
6.5mm PPC
6.5 WSSM
6.5 WOA
6.5mm Grendel
25 WSSM
6.8x43mm SPC
.30 Herrett Rimless Tactical (6.8x43mm case trimmed to 41mm and necked up to .308; the 6.8mm version of the .300 Whisper)
7.62x25
7.62x39mm
.30 RAR
300 OSSM
.357 Auto
.35 Gremlin (necked up 6.5 Grendel to 358)
.358 WSSM (various names, but all are some form of a WSSM necked up to 35 caliber, some are shortened to make them big game legal in Indiana)
.458 SOCOM
.50 Action Express
.50 Beowulf

AR-15 using a simple blowback operation
.17 HMR
.22 LR
.22 WMR
9x19mm
9x21
9x23
30 Carbine
357 Sig
40S&W
400 Cor-Bon
41 Action Express
10mm Auto
45 GAP
45ACP
45 Super
45 Win Mag



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This is not a complete list but covers quite a bit
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:55 pm
Ok and is the r-25 an ar-15 or is it another caliber? I thought I saw where it can shoot .308 but I'm not sure.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:26 pm
Description below per Remingtons web site. It is based off of the AR-10 Platform so interchangability of parts my be hit or miss IMHO


Overview:

Remington brought the hunting-rifle prowess, and a leading manufacturer of modular repeating rifles introduced us to the 308 Win platform. What emerged is a masterwork of game-dropping performance and hunt-specific features that will load any camp’s meat pole with unrivaled efficiency – the new Model R-25. An advanced, highly lethal blend of accuracy, fast followups and light recoil chambered for three of today’s most popular short-action hunting cartridges – 243 Win, 7mm-08 Remington and 308 Win. This rifle is everything varmint and predator hunters love about our R-15 in a beefed-up design that easily handles cartridges suitable for big-game hunting.

For peak accuracy, its precision-crafted 20" ChroMoly barrel is freefloated within the machined aluminum fore-end tube. Six longitudinal flutes forward of the gas block keep weight to a minimum and facilitate rapid heat dissipation. The barrel also features a recessed hunting crown to protect the rifling and aid in more consistent bullet flight. When it’s time to make the shot, the R-25’s ergonomic pistol-grip gives you unmatched control and rock-steady aim. As a whole, this rifle has a balanced, stable design that makes it deadly from the offhand position. True to our hunting market, the traditional two-stage trigger found on AR-platform rifles has been exchanged for a crisp, single-stage version that comes from the factory set at 4 1/2 to 5 lbs.

Its carefully tuned upper and lower are machined from rugged aluminum forgings. The entire gun is dressed in Mossy Oak® Treestand™ camo that makes it virtually invisible in the field. We included a 4-round magazine, and the R-25 is compatible with DPMS 308 Win-type magazines and accessories. front and rear sling swivel studs are installed.

Key Features:
  • Semi-automatic AR-10-style rifle developed in conjunction with an industry leader in the category
  • Free-floated button-rifled 0.680" Muzzle OD ChroMoly barrels with recessed hunting crown for superior accuracy
  • Fluted barrel design reduces weight and promotes rapid barrel cooling
  • Clean-breaking single-stage hunting trigger (factory set to 4.5-5lbs)
  • Receiver-length Picatinny rail for adding optics and accessories
  • Ergonomic pistol grip for rock solid aiming and control
  • Front and rear sling swivel studs
  • Full Mossy Oak® Treestand™ coverage
  • Includes 4-round magazine
  • Legal for hunting in most states
  • Compatible with aftermarket DPMS 308 Win Magazine Boxes
  • Lockable hard case included



Be sure to check local laws. I had to order 5 round mags for my AR to use it in MI for deer.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:53 pm
Ok I'm really considering the r25 but I've heard problems with the trigger and ejecting problems but then I've heard people say its a very good gun. I do like the camo pattern too (I like mossy oak breakup better tho) and I just want to get a good quality AR. I'd rather it be costly for a good one than one thats cheap and doesn't perform good.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:00 pm
I've built 2 ARs (.223/5.56) for less then $1000 each. The last one I just finished and bought most of the parts since Jan when the buying frenzy started to get bad. That might be a little haeder to accomplish with an alternate chambering but can be done if patient and persistant.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:30 pm
I've heard that's the best route to go but I have no experience at all with any type of AR so I was thinking about just buying one already made but yea I know what you mean, people are going crazy buying AR's and ammunition too but I also thought about maybe waiting till it calms down and prices can lower maybe (unless the ban on them goes through which would suck) I just wanna be sure that ill enjoy the gun and don't want to make any mistakes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:53 pm
Understandable. It's much easier to put one together once you have one. There are also some really good tutorials available online. There are some tools needed that will will need to purchase depending on how much of the assembly you want to do yourself. (or find friends that have them) If you ever find yourself wanting to take that route, let me know and I can help, hopefully, with whatever questions you have. I'm by no means an expert but I've got some knowledge.

On the flip side it you buy it assembled you get a warranty and probably something that will work flawlessly out of the box. Not to say that home assembled ones don't but there is always a possibility when assembling parts from multiple suppliers.

AR's are adult legos, they are infinitely customizable. Even when you buy a complete gun you will eventually find yourself upgrading or tweaking something.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:33 pm
Ok I probably will buy one for my first AR and if I get another I might consider building one. I wanna get one pre-built and learn the function and parts and maybe build one later. About everywhere I look they are out of any of the AR's I was looking at or they cost more than they should but I hope this craziness can settle down which I bet the gun manufacturers are happy haha. Thanks for your help and advice though, it's greatly appreciated
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:53 pm
Be patient and shop around. Guns are starting to come back in stock and deals can be found if you are vigilent.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:49 pm
Ok that's what I'm probably gonna do and I'd rather wait to pay less than buy one now and pay way more than it should be. Ill restrain that "I gotta have it now" urge haha

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