just wondering how many on this forum have sent their guns back. I sent mine back through GM. Not sure how much time that will add to my return.

Starting the count.

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I sent one of mine back at the end of August directly to Remington after Remington sent my shipping envelopes to me. I bought two of them about 3 days apart. When the 1st one failed so miserably (00024XXR51), I went back to buy the 2nd one (00034XXR51) with hopes that the 1st one was just a dud. Well, the 2nd one was worse. I'm just waiting on getting my 1st new replacement to see how it does before I decide what to do with the 2nd one. A visual comparison will be first on the agenda, then taking measurements on the two to find out how much difference there is between them. I have my thoughts on a single common denominator as to the cause of most of the many malfunctions.

I did call Remington a couple of weeks ago for whatever info I could attain about the replacement program. About all I could get was that the replacement, 2 extra magazines, and the Pelican case is expected to ship sometime in October. Pelican, by the way, is now a part of the group that owns Remington and I "think" the case is the iM-2050 judging by their photos.

+1 =2

Rick 51/ R51 wrote:I sent one of mine back at the end of August directly to Remington after Remington sent my shipping envelopes to me. I bought two of them about 3 days apart. When the 1st one failed so miserably (00024XXR51), I went back to buy the 2nd one (00034XXR51) with hopes that the 1st one was just a dud. Well, the 2nd one was worse. I'm just waiting on getting my 1st new replacement to see how it does before I decide what to do with the 2nd one. A visual comparison will be first on the agenda, then taking measurements on the two to find out how much difference there is between them. I have my thoughts on a single common denominator as to the cause of most of the many malfunctions.

I did call Remington a couple of weeks ago for whatever info I could attain about the replacement program. About all I could get was that the replacement, 2 extra magazines, and the Pelican case is expected to ship sometime in October. Pelican, by the way, is now a part of the group that owns Remington and I "think" the case is the iM-2050 judging by their photos.

+1 =2

Looking forward to your comparison and my replacement R51.

pinetreebbs wrote:

Rick 51/ R51 wrote:I sent one of mine back at the end of August directly to Remington after Remington sent my shipping envelopes to me. I bought two of them about 3 days apart. When the 1st one failed so miserably (00024XXR51), I went back to buy the 2nd one (00034XXR51) with hopes that the 1st one was just a dud. Well, the 2nd one was worse. I'm just waiting on getting my 1st new replacement to see how it does before I decide what to do with the 2nd one. A visual comparison will be first on the agenda, then taking measurements on the two to find out how much difference there is between them. I have my thoughts on a single common denominator as to the cause of most of the many malfunctions.

I did call Remington a couple of weeks ago for whatever info I could attain about the replacement program. About all I could get was that the replacement, 2 extra magazines, and the Pelican case is expected to ship sometime in October. Pelican, by the way, is now a part of the group that owns Remington and I "think" the case is the iM-2050 judging by their photos.

+1 =2

Looking forward to your comparison and my replacement R51.

My micrometers, depth indicators, tension gauges, clay plugs, and various technical measurement devices awaiting the subject. I'm getting quite anxious to get it back.

Just read in my most recent American Rifleman, that Remington halted production on the R51 until they get the kinks worked out.

Thank God....!!!

remingtontoter wrote:Just read in my most recent American Rifleman, that Remington halted production on the R51 until they get the kinks worked out.

Is that to say they halted original mass production that failed, or halted the new production? When was that article dated? I was under the assumption that the original mass production had already been shut down since about the beginning of the replacement announcement.

Rick 51/ R51 wrote:

remingtontoter wrote:Just read in my most recent American Rifleman, that Remington halted production on the R51 until they get the kinks worked out.

Is that to say they halted original mass production that failed, or halted the new production? When was that article dated? I was under the assumption that the original mass production had already been shut down since about the beginning of the replacement announcement.

Yes, I to was under the same assumption as you.

I'm assuming if your reading your most recent American Rifleman that article was actually wrote right after the announcement from Remington around July 25th, published, printed and send to news stands... which is now...old news.

I sent mine back with the two mags. Received an email notice that it had been received in Pineville NC. Now we wait, which is OK with me. Just hope they take the time to do it right.

remmy wrote:I'm assuming if your reading your most recent American Rifleman that article was actually wrote right after the announcement from Remington around July 25th, published, printed and send to news stands... which is now...old news.

Yes, it was the most recent issue. Did not know they were that far behind the curve.

Yeh, it's funny how news of the upcoming R51 traveled like wildfire before it hit the shelves and got purchased and fired by many. But now, so many publishers seem to want to hesitate on any news of the doomed initial production pistols. I'm just hoping that the news turns back into wildfire with nothing but good to report when the re-tooled R51s start coming back into our hands and back out on the range. Better than that would be news of the owners of these next re-issued R51s to actually turn into our actual "carry" pieces. That's what I bought mine for in the first place.

Its October, I figured you guys would have your new R51's shootin' away the way its been dead around here.

Remmy, my thoughts exactly. I want to do some successful R51 shooting and positive reading here about everyone's experiences. One thing that won't go away though, a Pederson designed action will succumb to performance failures if the pistol is "limp-wristed". And that's not the gun's fault. Many different semi-autos have the same character in that regard, but the R51 requires a really rigid hold. The worst part of that is that after a couple hundred rounds in one sitting, muscle fatigue sets in and taints the enjoyment of shooting it.

I might call Remington in the next few days before my next trip to Vegas and see if there's any 'new' news. I'd hate for it to come and I'm not home to sign for it and find that it got sent back.

Rick 51/ R51 wrote:Yeh, it's funny how news of the upcoming R51 traveled like wildfire before it hit the shelves and got purchased and fired by many. But now, so many publishers seem to want to hesitate on any news of the doomed initial production pistols. I'm just hoping that the news turns back into wildfire with nothing but good to report when the re-tooled R51s start coming back into our hands and back out on the range. Better than that would be news of the owners of these next re-issued R51s to actually turn into our actual "carry" pieces. That's what I bought mine for in the first place.

I hope so too. The first one I saw on the shelves, I asked the guy behind the counter to let me get a feel for it. As soon as I had it in my hand I wanted it, but did not have the cash at the time. By the time I got the cash around, I started to see the recalls and complaints...makes me angry. I still want one and will have one someday, it just feels so good in the hand.

Well rem-toter, just stay tuned because when I get mine back, I'll be reporting every step and result of the new one when it gets here. I know what you felt when you first placed the R51 in your hand. If you like that, you'd probably love the original 51. It's smoother, a tad smaller and narrower, and all steel and heavier. Extremely perfect fit in almost any sized hand and so sweet to shoot. Mine is one of the 1st ones built in 1919 and it's .380ACP as the .32 didn't come out until the early-mid-20s. The R51 is about 60% in comfort compared to the old 51, but it's still a great fit & feel.

Well, I called Remington yesterday and they said they expect to start shipping out by the end of this month. I'm hoping that's factual and not just a hypothesized statement. I haven't heard anything about differences or changes other than returning to the manufacturing & assembly process methods of the test pistols. It's just too quiet on their end.