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Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:23 pm
by Grodin
Any ideas on how to fix the light primer strike issue with fore end free play?

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:04 pm
by Chris Topher
krichardson wrote:Hey this is my first post on here so lets hope it goes ok.

I have had my 887 for prolly a year and half dont get me wrong but i love this gun but the problem i am seeing know is that the ejection port cover is being pulled all the way forward when being cocked. By this happening i can see the hammer stike the pin. And it is about impossible to uncock the gun without hitting the butt of the gun on the ground. What is the best possible way to fix this? Thanks


I have had the same problem for a while. After trying (and failing) to shoot clays this afternoon I took it apart and tried to see exactly what was going wrong. I found that the two notches on the side of the port cover (on the opposite side from the ejection port) have carved a path into the barrel. They are supposed to stop at a certain point and let the rest of the bolt assembly move forward. This stop is the extra metal that extrudes from the barrel when you disassemble the 887. (picture 19 in the owner's manual) The problem is that the metal piece actually has about a 45 degree angle on the end that is supposed to stop the guides and provides a convenient ramp for the guides to continue forward and wedge itself into the barrel where it shouldn't be. This probably wouldn't happen if there wasn't so much friction between the bolt assembly and the port cover. You can see in the picture the scoring on the barrel where the guides just carved through. The only solutions I could see would be to remove the port cover altogether (like the picture on page 1 of this forum topic) or to reduce the friction between the port cover and bolt assembly. However if you've already got grooves carved in, I think you're stuck with just removing it. I haven't tried firing it yet, but the action runs perfect now, where it doesn't if I put the port cover back on. Pictures aren't the greatest quality and you'll have to scroll a little to make out what's going on.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:07 pm
by Grodin
After some fiddling i found a likely reason for that "fore-end free play" problem that causes misfires..

How far back the fore-end and bolt are able to come depends on how far forward the bolt sits on the fore-end action arms. In my case the bolt sits too far back on the action arms giving lots of free play in locked position.

If you carve some room in front of the control arm gaps where the bolt sits to allow the bolt to go a bit forward (1-3mm depending how bad yours is..) and then fill the gap behind with something, it never fails to fire and all free play is gone.

Just have to be careful not to take it too far forward or it wont lock.

Reason for all this is that the "locked position" is just a metal bar stopping the action arms from coming backwards and the barrel stops the bolt going forward, and the further backwards the bolt sits on the arms the more free play you have between bolt hitting the barrel & stopping bar hitting the action bars..

The question is: Will i get "fixed" control arms if i just order new ones from remington, did they change them at some point?

Since remington simply refuses to help me at all with simple "sir we can not help you" responses when i asked if there is a problem with the gun and should i send it for repairs, i have to do something about it myself..

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:23 pm
by AnsoLobo
A SOLUTION!

Light strike/misfire issues were rampant when I bough mine new in August. Jamming on cycling, not ejecting. I tried high brass, low brass, differing shell length, shot size, slugs. I cleaned it a good three times. I tore it down and put it back together as outlined in the manual each time

Page 19 of my Manual, under "To Reassemble The Firearm" Number 2 mentions an Action Bar Support, used only to aid in assembling the bolt and action bars into reciever"

I noticed a lot of wear, and chafe on this tiny little metal part. I wondered if this wasn't causing some slow cycling, jamming, etc. So I threw that little POS in the garbage.

Took it out the next morning in October, had great success. Cycles fourfold better. No jamming. No misfiring. Nada.

Some models shipped with this part, some didnt. On a lot of reviews about this shotgun, I notice the happy people did NOT have this little support thingy. The upset ones I talked to do! A number of people have thrown theirs away too and had amazing success.

I had a great waterfowl season out here in Northeastern Saskatchewan. Limited out numerous times with my m887

My upland game bird limit was also topped up in my freezer as of Nov. 1

I even took my first White-tail with a shotgun (m887) a week & half ago (monday)

This gun scared me at first. I was so dis-appointed. After stepping out on a limb, I'm happy to say I have the best shotgun in the world (atleast I think so)

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:16 pm
by ddaarr
I checked the online 887 manuals and did not find the action support bar. I however have a picture of it from Remmingtons website.

http://www.shopremingtoncountry.com/Model-887-Action-Support-F302543/dp/B00DBA9EYY

Could you kindly point out where this support bar is and how you removed it.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:06 pm
by ddaarr
Here is the support bar. When I took my fore end off I found the support bar towards the front of the action bars. I removed the support bar.

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Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:32 pm
by tkiker
My gun is doing the same thing.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:00 am
by Grodin
My gun didnt even come with that support bar. Fixed my free play by moving the bolt on the action arms a bit forward, took some welding and grinding.

Also eliminated the gap on my pistol grip between trigger guard and the handle, will upload pics soon!

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:16 pm
by Big jim
My 887 just recently started having light primer hits, I took the forearm tube out of the gun filed the plastic tabs where it seated against which pulled the action and bolt forward just a smidge. No more miss fires.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:08 pm
by Huukt
Just wanted to say thanks. After removing this support a few weeks ago(suggested by this article) I have had no issues with lock ups/ jamming while cycling.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:29 am
by coyotecody784
when i first bought my 887 i was having problems with it jamming and trying to double and triple feed shells. I sent her in to Remington and they fixed her right up and now she is killer. still got a lil play in the fore end but as long as it goes bang when i shoot her its all good. I bought the slug barrel for it before last years deer season and dropped a monster 9. I got to say I LOVE THIS GUN. Love the slug barrel and the sights on it. Not gonna lie I prefer to hunt with my 887 than my 870. the 887 doesnt get nearly as cold and when there is a heavy dew or moister in the air or rain i dont have to worry about it rusting. only work ive done to it in the past year or year an half of having it is I put a mag extension and barrel clap on it. Im looking to put a Magpul stock and fore end on it. Has any one put a Magpul on theirs yet?

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:18 pm
by SHOOTER13
Sounds like you're a happy camper Cody !!

Post some pics if you haven't already done so...

http://www.photobucket.com ( free image hosting site )

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:24 am
by coyotecody784
SHOOTER13 wrote:Sounds like you're a happy camper Cody !!

Post some pics if you haven't already done so...



I am. I love my 887 and I will be buying another one before long. Ill try to get some pics up soon as I can. for some reason they dont seem to want to post.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:18 pm
by English mustard
Remington 887


Hi all,

I am a new member and I live in the UK,

I recently received my section 2 shotgun licence, and went off to my friendly gun shop to satisfy my dream of having a pump action shotgun, I had done my research and decided that I wanted a Remington 870 express, However this proved more difficult than expected, It is currently almost impossible to obtain a new 870 express in the UK, However I did manage to get a 887 Nitromag,
Looked at it, picked it up, thrilled at the iconic sound of the action and fell in love with it,
Paid the man and went off to try out my new toy, The first 20 round, no problem and then the pump action started to get harder to work and eventually cartridges started getting jammed, went home a bit disappointed,
Not being someone who gives up easily, I Read up on the internet i.e. YouTube and shooting forums and found that this was not an uncommon problem?

So I, Disassembled the gun and immediately realised that although the design is simple, Remington’s method of mass production and quality control appears not to be very high,So here’s what you need to do,

1. Disassemble the gun, making a note of how to reassemble.
2. Using medium grade wet n dry paper smooth down the two action bars, removing the paint until
Well-polished.
3. Do the same to the two action bar receiver slider mounts.
4. Give the action bars and sliders a good clean ensuring any dirt or grit is removed.
5. Carefully clean and lubricate the bolt assembly.
6. Lubricate well, all moving parts, using a good quality gun oil and reassemble the gun.

The action will be much easier to operate and no more jamming.

I have since tested the gun with many different cartridges i.e. size load weight and it has not missed a beat, but like any other mechanical mechanism it requires cleaning and lubrication.

For the money, this gun is a fantastic piece of kit, it shoots straight and looks the business,
would highly recommend.

Great forum.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:53 pm
by SHOOTER13
Welcome to the Remington Owners Forum English Mustard !!

Thanks for the detailed action list...

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 1:17 pm
by UplandCam
Hi all, I recently picked up a used 887 to use for ducks. I like the gun to be honest. It's different looking than my upland gun but that's a big part of why I got it. I've read all the bad reviews but went for it anyway. It fires and feeds great but there is one issue. Once in a while the ejection port cover rides up (posted before) do much that I can see inside of the gun. Since I don't have warranty I'm on my own. Any suggestions as to how to fix this issue?

Thanks

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:32 am
by SHOOTER13
Welcome to the Remington Owners Forum UplandCam !!

Sorry I can't help with that question...but stay tuned...others here will know the answer !!

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 12:15 pm
by UplandCam
Thanks for the welcome! I hope it's an easy fix. I've owned Remington guns and rifles before, I'd hate to be turned away over a fixable issue.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:45 pm
by SHOOTER13
Understood...hang tight...someone will stop by and know !!

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:59 pm
by UplandCam
I took the gun apart and the cover was slightly off its track. I'm guessing it was an oversight on the previous owner or it jumps. I'm taking to the range, with some others, on Sat so hopefully I've figured it out.

Re: Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting

PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 12:16 pm
by SHOOTER13
Keep us in the loop...