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Is the Remington V3 shotgun drop safe?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:23 pm
by Sheepdoggit
I was shocked when I learned many years ago that, unlike a Glock, most shotguns are not drop safe. I even contacted Mossberg who verified there 500/590 series wasn't drop safe either. This was a surprise since it passed the army's MIL-S-3443G "Rough handling" testing where they drop the shotgun from a minimum of four feet from a variety of angles. Maybe they were being litigious, but I remember James Yeager backpedaling in a video after he had been recommending for years that people keep a round loaded in the chamber of their pump shotguns until he heard about the reality. Now he allegedly keeps the chamber empty and has to rack it (which he used to make fun of).

Of course, with a Remington V3 I'm not interested in a combat shotgun. Nonetheless, I like drop safe firearms, and I read the following in the V3 manual:

"Additional Features:
Besides the manual safety mechanism, the V3 autoloading shotguns incorporate passive features providing additional protection against accidental or unintentional discharge under normal usage and in good working order. These passive features such as the inertia firing pin system, steel alloys and/or their metallurgical treatments, the hammer, sear, and trigger engagements, the trigger disconnect, the breech lock-up system, head space, and the trigger guard all work without direct input from the user as long as your firearm is kept clean and in good working order."

Do you think these passive safety features imply it is drop safe? The Mossberg 500/590 manual, for example, makes no such claims about passive safety devices.

Re: Is the Remington V3 shotgun drop safe?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:56 am
by John A.
The Mossberg 500 has been around since ~1960.

I have never heard of one firing when dropped. And I hunted with one extensively when I was a lot younger and rougher than I am now.

Even read one story being dropped as high as 50 feet without a discharge.

Will a gun fire when dropped? Maybe, maybe not. A lot of it depends on the trigger, hammer and the angle geometry, and even their spring tension. Whether anything snags the trigger on the way down and a host of other things.

moral of the story, I don't make a habit of dropping or throwing any of my guns around. Keep them pointed in a safe directions at all times.

And in the case of AR15, I have seen some dimpled primers from nothing more than chambering a round that would probably scare you to death if you had seen them.

Re: Is the Remington V3 shotgun drop safe?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:47 pm
by Sheepdoggit
John A. wrote:The Mossberg 500 has been around since ~1960.

I have never heard of one firing when dropped. And I hunted with one extensively when I was a lot younger and rougher than I am now.

Even read one story being dropped as high as 50 feet without a discharge.



I haven't heard of a Mossberg 500 having an unintentional discharge, but I'm a sample of one (as are you). Millions of those shotguns have been sold. Remember, James Yeager had to eat crow because he was so adamant about keeping a round loaded in the chamber and how racking the slide won't deter an intruder, but he became convinced in the last couple of years that it's dangerous. The Luckygunner had the same opinion in a video he released in the last couple of years. Moreover, the manufacturer says it as well (as noted in my original post).

Remington, on the other hand, essentially states in their manual that that the V3 is drop safe so long as you don't break or screw with the internals.