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Remington 887 Pump Action Troubleshooting


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:18 pm
With new gun some shells have problems, like i had with GameBore 38g birdshots, the casing was thicker than on other brands causing the shell to get stuck on the ejector claw if you didnt cycle it with a lot of force, and when that happens i had to pull the action back again to unjam it causing a double feed because the first one didnt eject (Stuck under the claw..)

That however fixed itself with some use, tight tolerances and stuff but now i have an opposite problem with what i think is the same part on the gun that is causing your double feed issue. Often it doesnt feed at all, that thingy on the ejection port side of the gun that makes sure only 1 shell comes out at a time from the mag tube gets stuck in closed position, effectively stopping any rounds coming from the magazine tube - this could be fixed by adjusting the stopper arm (See later posts..)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:50 pm
Well it seems i was on the right track, ill try to explain how i fixed it...

The rail on right side of the trigger unit that prevents more than 1 round coming from the tube at once wasnt disengaging enough to let shells pass. You had the opposite problem, it was disengaged all the time letting all the shells through causing double feeds.

I used pliers to make the profile of that small notch on the top of that rail a bit steeper to make it disengage more aggressively + moving the tip on the end that stops the shells closer to the edge so it doesnt need to be moved as much to let the shells pass.

If the gun is letting multiple shells in you would have to do the opposite if the problem is on that part. If the action levers are timed wrong from the factory then it wont help..

Anyone doing this should be really careful, i have no idea how well the metal parts handle being forcefully twisted to another position. Prefer warranty if you have one, over here warranty works for crap so fixing these or atleast trying to fix them is less of a headache.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:55 pm
Grodin,

I do not believe you were the one who explained it to me wrong, however you are spot on now. I received the following response from Remington Customer Service today:

"I have a new trigger plate assembly on the way to you. You should receive it within the next 7-10 days. Thank you again for your service, and I hope this new trigger plate assembly gets you up and running for good. If you ever need anything else, feel free to contact us, and we'll be glad to help any way we can."

Once I get the new trigger plate assembly I will take pics and compare the two side by side. I'll post any findings here.

On a side note the older 887s had a similar issue to what I have, Remington redesigned the trigger group to eliminate the problem. Here are the pictures of the old style vs new style, courtesy of a feller I met from another forum. The old deffective one is on the left in the top pic. Bottom pic the old one has the flag sticking off the right side.

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I have the new style, just happened to get one of the new ones that the timing is off (seems it is simply bending tabs like you stated). More to follow, hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:55 pm
Gunsumer reports did a great job breaking down the 887 Tactical, this thread may help troubleshoot by helping you to identify/communicate your issue.

http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_r ... cal_p4.php

at the bottom of the page there are more threads concerning the 887 Tactical.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:52 pm
Now since thats out of the way, we can start working on the next issue, dear god remington :roll:

Can someone take a picture of the point where barrel meets the receiver, from the top, it seems like my barrel is rotated counter clockwise so much the top part of the receiver barely meets with the top part of the barrel.. i dont think this affects the accuracy because i have the normal model and sights are on the barrel but it just looks way off..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:18 pm
Grodin,

Tried to post pics with no luck. The link below shows the pics you requested. Figure 17 and 22

http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_r ... cal_p3.php

Squirrel

Edit: You don't have the tatical version do you? Does it matter or are they molded the same?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:18 pm
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Yeah, it looks like mine is way off.

Should be molded the same, however this shouldnt have too much effect on the normal version since there are no sights on the receiver :(
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:36 pm
Your not the only one with this issue, I've read of others. Some actually had bent barrels because their shots were way off. Others had loose barrels? I would send Remington an email with the pic you posted and at least ask the question.

Keep it positive, let them know you are a loyal Remington customer and you love the 887. "I just noticed the barrel is twisted" please advise? Takes about a week for them to respond. Include your contact information, home address (so they can ship the part out), and the 887 serial number. Who knows they may send you a new barrel or receiver.

I used the following link and sent an email to headquarters, I am very pleased with the result.

http://www.remington.com/sitecore/conte ... -info.aspx


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Remington Arms Company, LLC
870 Remington Drive
P.O. Box 700
Madison, NC 27025-0700

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:23 pm
The Trigger Group from Remington arrived yesterday. When compared side by side it's clear what the issue was. Here are some pics, first the side by side. Then the new one and last is the old one with the issues mentioned above.

Seems to be an easy fix, but I am not a gunsmith. If I were to attempt to realign I'd change the angle with an adjustable wrench. Works great on bending sheet metal on my muscle cars.

Overall I am very pleased with Remingtons customer service, plus I have $100s worth of spare parts.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:40 pm
Disclaimer: I am not a gunsmith, this should be attempted by a qualified technician. Edit ... found a better place to bend it (See next post)
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