lklawson wrote:

draidt wrote:I refuse to pay what the gougers are asking for them. [...]

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Ke ... ington+r51

What "gouging" are you talking about? Interested parties are bidding it up, yes, but the seller isn't asking more than MSRP, he's just letting buyers bid what they're willing to pay. That's not "gouging."

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

This is Gouging a Starting price and Buy it now price for $629.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =399245763

Funny how the only R51's out now are on GunBroker.

draidt wrote:Funny how the only R51's out now are on GunBroker.

I bought one two days ago straight from the LGS for $399 +tax.

I sent them an email requesting info on availability and price and they sent me a reply when stock came in. I went out there within a few hours and picked it up.

I suspect that Olde English Outfitters in Tipp City Ohio isn't the only LGS that is selling to live customers instead of online. Look around and maybe put in a request with the LGSes in your area.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Going to try to track down one locally this weekend. Very excited to see its finally on shelves. Thanks for all the info.

lklawson wrote:

draidt wrote:Funny how the only R51's out now are on GunBroker.

I bought one two days ago straight from the LGS for $399 +tax.

I sent them an email requesting info on availability and price and they sent me a reply when stock came in. I went out there within a few hours and picked it up.

I suspect that Olde English Outfitters in Tipp City Ohio isn't the only LGS that is selling to live customers instead of online. Look around and maybe put in a request with the LGSes in your area.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Great now what is your opinion is it as good I I hope it will be ?

draidt wrote:

lklawson wrote:

draidt wrote:Funny how the only R51's out now are on GunBroker.

I bought one two days ago straight from the LGS for $399 +tax.

I sent them an email requesting info on availability and price and they sent me a reply when stock came in. I went out there within a few hours and picked it up.

I suspect that Olde English Outfitters in Tipp City Ohio isn't the only LGS that is selling to live customers instead of online. Look around and maybe put in a request with the LGSes in your area.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Great now what is your opinion is it as good I I hope it will be ?

I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but it feels real nice in the hand.

I posted about some initial impressions during first clean in post #12 here: http://www.remingtonowners.com/topic1626.html

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

seen on gunbroker a 'buy it now' price of $800, I would call that price gouging. I would assume most bigger stores, BPS, Cabelas, Gander Mtn, etc will be at retail pricing

remmy wrote:seen on gunbroker a 'buy it now' price of $800, I would call that price gouging. I would assume most bigger stores, BPS, Cabelas, Gander Mtn, etc will be at retail pricing

I was chastised earlier in the thread when I called what is going on at GB broker gouging , IT IS !. plain and simple. I preordered 2 months ago and locked in a price of 384.00 may take awhile but I'll wait. Seems more and more are showing up at GB everyday. Hopefully these inflated prices will not determine what some LGD's will ask for them, but you know it will until the demand ebbs.

"Price Gouging" is liberal communist code for "Capitalism." Don't like the price, buy it elsewhere. It's not like we're living in a Coal Mining Village and have to use Company Script to buy from the Company Store.

There have been several reports now of people buying R51's from LGS at sub-MSRP.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

lklawson wrote:"Price Gouging" is liberal communist code for "Capitalism." Don't like the price, buy it elsewhere. It's not like we're living in a Coal Mining Village and have to use Company Script to buy from the Company Store.

There have been several reports now of people buying R51's from LGS at sub-MSRP.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Price Gouging is my right wing code for I don't want to be ripped off. As usual it is buyer be aware and in this case I am aware.

BTW I also own a business and know the meaning of competition If I charged double what the going rate is then I would not be in business for long. What is going on at GB is price Gouging pure and simple.

It is also my right to say what I think as is yours to defend your position.

draidt wrote:

lklawson wrote:"Price Gouging" is liberal communist code for "Capitalism." Don't like the price, buy it elsewhere. It's not like we're living in a Coal Mining Village and have to use Company Script to buy from the Company Store.

There have been several reports now of people buying R51's from LGS at sub-MSRP.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Price Gouging is my right wing code for I don't want to be ripped off. As usual it is buyer be aware and in this case I am aware.

BTW I also own a business and know the meaning of competition If I charged double what the going rate is then I would not be in business for long. What is going on at GB is price Gouging pure and simple.

It is also my right to say what I think as is yours to defend your position.

I think the term "Price Gouging" and the accompanying psychology that goes along with it, is the most successful Communist/Socialist propaganda coup since the 19th Century Russian revolution. We, as a culture, have become accustomed to believing that a good or service "should" only cost so much and if the price exceeds what we think it "should" then someone is "Price Gouging" and taking advantage of us, the little guy (aka, the proletaria), probably the rich one-percenters (aka, the bourgeoisie). And there are immediate calls that it's just "not fair." And, depending one what is being "price gouged" there are also often calls the maybe the government should step in and punish or prevent these one-percenters (bourgeoisie capitalists pigs!) from raping the middle class (proletariat/working-man). Has everyone already forgotten the calls to punish the evil Big Oil companies for making their "windfall profits" by levying a confiscatory tax?

The song is still the same, only the words have changed and people who should know better are being fooled by it.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

lklawson wrote:

draidt wrote:

lklawson wrote:"Price Gouging" is liberal communist code for "Capitalism." Don't like the price, buy it elsewhere. It's not like we're living in a Coal Mining Village and have to use Company Script to buy from the Company Store.

There have been several reports now of people buying R51's from LGS at sub-MSRP.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

Price Gouging is my right wing code for I don't want to be ripped off. As usual it is buyer be aware and in this case I am aware.

BTW I also own a business and know the meaning of competition If I charged double what the going rate is then I would not be in business for long. What is going on at GB is price Gouging pure and simple.

It is also my right to say what I think as is yours to defend your position.

I think the term "Price Gouging" and the accompanying psychology that goes along with it, is the most successful Communist/Socialist propaganda coup since the 19th Century Russian revolution. We, as a culture, have become accustomed to believing that a good or service "should" only cost so much and if the price exceeds what we think it "should" then someone is "Price Gouging" and taking advantage of us, the little guy (aka, the proletaria), probably the rich one-percenters (aka, the bourgeoisie). And there are immediate calls that it's just "not fair." And, depending one what is being "price gouged" there are also often calls the maybe the government should step in and punish or prevent these one-percenters (bourgeoisie capitalists pigs!) from raping the middle class (proletariat/working-man). Has everyone already forgotten the calls to punish the evil Big Oil companies for making their "windfall profits" by levying a confiscatory tax?

The song is still the same, only the words have changed and people who should know better are being fooled by it.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

I am out refuse to step into Tin Foil hat territory

This thread has spiraled out of control debating the prices on gunbroker. The important part is the pistol is available. And some members here have them and were kind enough share their thoughts on the pistol firsthand. Back to the pistol...

Have you tried any +p ammo yet, Kirk?

Anyone seeing these at bigger retailers yet? I don't have many small LGS's around and the ones that are around don't typically get in 'hot item' new guns for in for some time.....

R1V3R5 wrote:Have you tried any +p ammo yet, Kirk?

Not yet. However, I have purchased some Hornady Critical Duty, 135gr +P to try in it.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

R1V3R5 wrote:This thread has spiraled out of control debating the prices on gunbroker. The important part is the pistol is available. And some members here have them and were kind enough share their thoughts on the pistol firsthand. Back to the pistol...

Have you tried any +p ammo yet, Kirk?

Agreed R1V3R5, guys lets keep this on topic please.

Read my review above . paid 357.28 in rural nc mountains. MY general store owner has had one on order for 8 weeks for my wife before any wholsalers new what was up. There out there as he has 7 more coming. Don't know if he got them all or not.

Gander Mountain in Wichita had to come in last Friday they were gone Sunday when I went there. Still waiting for the LGS I ordered one from.