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1930 Model 14 in 25 Rem

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:34 pm
I'm new here. I recently picked up an old 1930 (I think) Remington Model 14 in .25 Rem , sn 1143xx. It looks to be in good shape. I'm going to let a gun shop look at it to see if it's been altered or damaged, then take it to the range to see what it will do. The ammo, being kind of expensive, $3/rnd, is motivating me to become a reloader. We'll see how that goes. Does anyone out there in the ether know where I can find a manual for this gun? I think it takes 5 rounds in the tube, & I don't know if it's ok to dry fire it, things like that. Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:52 pm
Hey reeder go online and check Remington Obsolete owners manuals for your Model 14. Has the diagrams and nomenclature. Looked at a Model 14 years back in 25.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:42 pm
Any firearm can be made safe-to-dry-fire just by leaving a spent cartridge case w/primer in the chamber. Of if you want, make your own snap-cap by depriming a spent cartridge case and then filling the primer hole with either silicone caulk or a cut-to-fit pencil eraser. You just want to give the firing pin something to land against that is non-damaging. Good luck on this project. I've had a fascination with the .32 Remington round to build a project gun around, probably a Marlin 336. Someday....
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:26 pm
mauser9 wrote:Hey reeder go online and check Remington Obsolete owners manuals for your Model 14. Has the diagrams and nomenclature. Looked at a Model 14 years back in 25.


Thanks. I went there, & downloaded their manual. Good info. Thanks, again.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:26 pm
Scorpion8 wrote:Any firearm can be made safe-to-dry-fire just by leaving a spent cartridge case w/primer in the chamber. Of if you want, make your own snap-cap buy depriming a spent cartridge case and then filling the primer hole with either silicone caulk or a cut-to-fit pencil eraser. You just want to give the firing pin something to land against that is non-damaging. Good luck on this project. I've had a fascination with the .32 Remington round to build a project gun around, probably a Marlin 336. Someday....


Thanks for the reply.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:39 pm
I went to the 'Range', or what we have that passes for a 'Range', & put 6 rounds through this gun. The target was put about 75 yds out, & the three that I fired at it didn't touch it. I'm thinking that they went over the target. I put the target at about 22 yds out, & fired three rounds. When I put the front sight, & the target, right in the middle of the back sight, the holes in the target were about 6 inches too high of the target area. I re-aimed with the front sight at the bottom of the rear sight, & the target in the middle of the rear sight, & came about 3 inches below the target area. Ammunition is about $3 per round, so I stopped, & I'll be able to go out again. I'll try sighting it in at about 50 yds, & adjust the rear sight up, down, as required. I think this gun is a keeper, & try my hand at reloading these .25 Rem cartridges to hold down the costs.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:56 pm
Couple thoughts.

1. Sights. Are yours factory Remington Sights?

2. Bore condition. How's the Bore?

3. Reloading. The. 25/.30/.32 Remington are the same case. 30 is easier to find to make brass from. And IIRC you can use 25-35 WCF dies and data. AND BULLETS. The fable about sharp point bullets in the 14/141 is just that: a fable. Use 25-35 bullets. NO SHARP POINTS.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:37 pm
r.reeder wrote:The target was put about 75 yds out, & the three that I fired at it didn't touch it....


I always start rough siting-in at 25 yards. Most trajectory tables show that a high-powered (2200fps+) cartridge bullet will pass thru "zero" at 25 yards rising and then come back down to "zero" at 100-120 yards. And 25 yards lets you get on-target quicker than 100 yards. And it looks like it's time to take up reloading to enjoy that .25 Remmie!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:05 pm
Plain Old Dave wrote:Couple thoughts.

1. Sights. Are yours factory Remington Sights?

2. Bore condition. How's the Bore?

3. Reloading. The. 25/.30/.32 Remington are the same case. 30 is easier to find to make brass from. And IIRC you can use 25-35 WCF dies and data. AND BULLETS. The fable about sharp point bullets in the 14/141 is just that: a fable. Use 25-35 bullets. NO SHARP POINTS.

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Sights are factory iron sights.
Bore is pert'near perfect.
I've picked up 50 cases, got a 'Rock Chucker', .25 Rem dies, a Hornady reloading manual with data for the 25-35 Win, which I can use for the .25 Rem, etc. I'm going to see what powder & bullets are available, match them up with the Hornady book, take a big gulp & start reloading. I'll post my results.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:06 pm
Scorpion8 wrote:
r.reeder wrote:The target was put about 75 yds out, & the three that I fired at it didn't touch it....


I always start rough siting-in at 25 yards. Most trajectory tables show that a high-powered (2200fps+) cartridge bullet will pass thru "zero" at 25 yards rising and then come back down to "zero" at 100-120 yards. And 25 yards lets you get on-target quicker than 100 yards. And it looks like it's time to take up reloading to enjoy that .25 Remmie!



Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:54 pm
Scorpion8 wrote:
r.reeder wrote:The target was put about 75 yds out, & the three that I fired at it didn't touch it....


I always start rough siting-in at 25 yards. Most trajectory tables show that a high-powered (2200fps+) cartridge bullet will pass thru "zero" at 25 yards rising and then come back down to "zero" at 100-120 yards. And 25 yards lets you get on-target quicker than 100 yards. And it looks like it's time to take up reloading to enjoy that .25 Remmie!


Thanks. I got all of the reloading accouterments, & started out by reloading those 6 spent shells. All was going as smooth as silk when I grabbed a charged shell, put it in the shell holder, got a bullet in my other hand, getting ready to seat it, & the charged shell dropped to the garage floor. Powder settled all over. I sighed, recharged the shell & continued on, with no more mishaps. Swept the floor as best I could. I think I'll vacuum it. I weighed my reloads, just to verify that I didn't double charge one, & they averaged out to an even 288 gr., standard deviation of 0.8075 gr. I did the same for the 14 store bought rounds, they averaged out to 289.7571 gr., standard deviation of 3.6948 gr. (Quite a spread.) I'm pleased with my results. Only thing to do now is see if the reloads will fire.

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